Hi Rayson,
Thank you very much for the extended explanations and for sharing your
experience. I had to start fast, and read only quick-guides, and first two
pages of everything, and googling what I need only,
thanks again,
Kind Regards,
Manal
On 19 May 2012 02:47, Rayson Ho <raysonlogin_at_gmail.com> wrote:
> Manal,
>
> Here's my spending back in Feb. I am also in the free tier, BTW.
>
> In that month, I used 27 hours of t1.micro & 1 hour of m1.small, thus
> I got charged $ 0.09 ($0.085 rounded up!).
>
> Amazon EC2 running Linux/UNIX
> $0.00 per Micro Instance (t1.micro) instance-hour (or
> partial
> hour) under monthly free tier 27 Hrs 0.00
> $0.085 per Small Instance (m1.small) instance-hour (or
> partial
> hour) 1 Hr 0.09
>
> Amazon EC2 EBS
> $0.00 per GB-month of provisioned storage under monthly
> free
> tier 0.398 GB-Mo 0.00
> $0.00 per 1 million I/O requests under monthly free tier
> 428,595 IOs 0.00
>
> Elastic IP Addresses
> $0.00 per Elastic IP address remap - first 100 remaps /
> month 1
> Count 0.00
>
>
> I am under the free EBS limit (it was then 10GB month, but the limit
> got bumped up to 30 GB month recently). Note that you can use 60GB for
> 15 days, then 0 GB for the rest of the month, and Amazon will not
> charge you anything. I think Amazon has a very straightforward
> pricing, and you don't need to worry about whether the EBS is used by
> a t1.micro or a cg1.4xlarge or even just left there for backup...
>
> Basically, feel free to mix and match free & non-free EC2 resource.
>
> Rayson
>
> ================================
> Open Grid Scheduler / Grid Engine
> http://gridscheduler.sourceforge.net/
>
> Scalable Grid Engine Support Program
> http://www.scalablelogic.com/
>
>
>
> On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 9:59 PM, Rayson Ho <raysonlogin_at_gmail.com> wrote:
> > So you are in the "free tier" indeed! Keep in mind that you get 30 GB
> > of free EBS storage, and if you are willing to pay, then you don't
> > need to limit yourself to micro instances.
> >
> > For example, you can still use CG1 instances (which are not free even
> > for those in the free tier) and you still get free 30GB of EBS
> > storage. You basically can mix and match free & non-free stuff in AWS.
> >
> > Rayson
> >
> > ================================
> > Open Grid Scheduler / Grid Engine
> > http://gridscheduler.sourceforge.net/
> >
> > Scalable Grid Engine Support Program
> > http://www.scalablelogic.com/
> >
> >
> >
> > On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 9:27 PM, Manal Helal <manalorama_at_gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >> Thank you very much Justin and Rayson for the explanation,
> >>
> >> I actually started the cluster Yesterday and learned a few issues by
> try and
> >> error, realising the already mounted EBS in the starcluster HVM AMI, but
> >> terminates with it and needs downloading the data. I also realised the
> >> unfeasibility of the thought of downloading an image, updating it on my
> >> machine, and then upload it after testing and everytime I need it. Also
> >> using a spotnode cost less, so I can experiment with less worries, but
> the
> >> IO free-tier is small, and only tiny instances are in the free tier,
> and I
> >> need cg1.4xlarge to use the GPU Cluster,
> >>
> >> I tried the following steps:
> >>
> http://instantbadger.blogspot.com.au/2009/09/how-to-create-and-save-ami-image-from.html
> >>
> >> to bundle, upload and register the customised running AMI after my
> updates,
> >> and the bundle took time indeed, but this seams like the alternative to
> the
> >> scenario download/upload I was thinking of,
> >>
> >> thanks again for your help,
> >>
> >> Kind Regards,
> >>
> >>
> >> On 18 May 2012 07:40, Rayson Ho <raysonlogin_at_gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 5:23 PM, Justin Riley <jtriley_at_mit.edu> wrote:
> >>> > If you're trying to find a way to store data without having to keep
> the
> >>> > cluster around there are much better approaches:
> >>>
> >>> Manal,
> >>>
> >>> Since you mentioned that you are new to AWS, you should be able to get
> >>> the benefits of the free tier:
> >>>
> >>> http://aws.amazon.com/free/
> >>>
> >>> Basically, you can use 30 GB of EBS storage free of charge. On the
> >>> other hand, if you pull data from AWS to your local harddrive
> >>> everytime you are done with the instance, then you will need to pay
> >>> for I/O & data transfer costs.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Justin,
> >>>
> >>> I am trying to find the version of the NVIDIA Driver & CUDA toolkit
> >>> installed on the CG1 AMIs, but instead of booting up an instance to
> >>> find out what's there, is there a page that lists the additional
> >>> software packages installed in the AMIs?? So far, I could only find:
> >>>
> >>> https://github.com/jtriley/StarCluster/issues/9
> >>>
> >>> Rayson
> >>>
> >>> ================================
> >>> Open Grid Scheduler / Grid Engine
> >>> http://gridscheduler.sourceforge.net/
> >>>
> >>> Scalable Grid Engine Support Program
> >>> http://www.scalablelogic.com/
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> >
> >>> > 1. Use an external EBS volume with StarCluster and store your data
> >>> > there. This will allow you to terminate the cluster and still
> preserve
> >>> > your important data on the EBS volume. See:
> >>> >
> >>> > http://web.mit.edu/star/cluster/docs/latest/manual/volumes.html
> >>> >
> >>> > 2. If you don't wish to use external EBS volumes at all you can
> always
> >>> > use starcluster's "get" command to manually download files from the
> >>> > cluster before terminating, e.g.:
> >>> >
> >>> > $ starcluster get mycluster /path/to/results.tar.gz
> >>> >
> >>> > Similarly you can upload files using the "put" command:
> >>> >
> >>> > $ starcluster put mycluster /path/to/local/file /remote/path/
> >>> >
> >>> > See the following doc for more details:
> >>> >
> >>> > http://web.mit.edu/star/cluster/docs/latest/manual/putget.html
> >>> >
> >>> >> 4. After knowing how to download the image, I will need the
> command
> >>> >> to
> >>> >> start a new cluster using the image I have stored on my local
> disk.
> >>> >> I
> >>> >> think I have seen something to install from an image to the
> cluster
> >>> >
> >>> > Launching a cluster using a locally stored disk image is not
> supported.
> >>> > The latency in doing this would be *insane*. Having to upload
> multiple
> >>> > GBs and register an AMI everytime would make starting a cluster
> >>> > *extremely* time-consuming and error-prone.
> >>> >
> >>> > As mentioned above you're better off creating a new AMI for your
> needs
> >>> > and keeping the new AMI on Amazon. Then simply update your
> StarCluster
> >>> > config to use your new AMI. If you need to save data before
> terminating
> >>> > the cluster then either save your data to an external EBS volume or
> copy
> >>> > the data using the 'get' command as mentined above.
> >>> >
> >>> > Hope that helps,
> >>> >
> >>> > ~Justin
> >>> >
> >>> > _______________________________________________
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> >>> > StarCluster_at_mit.edu
> >>> > http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/starcluster
> >>> >
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> ==================================================
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> >>> http://gridscheduler.sourceforge.net/
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Kind Regards,
> >>
> >> Manal Helal
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > ==================================================
> > Open Grid Scheduler - The Official Open Source Grid Engine
> > http://gridscheduler.sourceforge.net/
>
>
>
> --
> ==================================================
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